Question:
qui est venu en premier l oeuf ou la poule ?
MAJOR
2007-05-12 10:38:03 UTC
TOUTE SUPPOSITION CONFONDU
23 réponses:
gourcy
2007-05-12 20:08:59 UTC
Voici un des rares (le seul à ma connaissance) article "scientifique" relatant du sujet (je me contente juste d'un cut and paste plutot qur d'en faire un pale résumé). En anglais mais tres drôle...



Which came first — the chicken or the egg?

The question has a reputation for being difficult, perhaps even impossible, to answer. Philosophers treat it as a conundrum. But in the hands of an experimental scientist, the question is simple and straightforward, and the answer is easily obtained.

I doubt that I am the first to solve the chicken-and-egg problem, but a search of the scientific literature turned up surprisingly few accounts — none, in fact — of previous work. Here, then, is an account of my work on what turns out to be a trivial question.

How the Problem was Solved

Which came first — the chicken of the egg? I tackled the question experimentally, using a chicken, an egg, and the United States Postal Service (USPS).

I mailed the chicken and the egg, each in its own separate packaging, and kept careful track of when each shipment was sent from a post office in Cambridge, Massachusetts, and when it subsequently arrived at its intended destination in New York City.



The Chicken

In mailing the chicken, I was careful to adhere to the restrictions described in the Postal Service’s Domestic Mail Manual [DMM] 57, as updated in Postal Bulletin [PB] 2209, April 3, 2003. (See Figure 1.) This, the most recent, version of the DMM states that:

"Adult chickens must be sent by Express Mail. The Express Mail containers used must pass the standards in International Safe Transit Association (ISTA) Test Procedure 1A (detailed in Publication 2, Packaging for Mailing); be designed to remain intact during normal handling; be constructed to totally confine the chickens; contain shavings or other material to prevent damage to the bottom of the container; and be ventilated properly to ensure humane treatment in transit. The number of birds in each parcel must not exceed the container manufacturer’s limit."

I mailed the chicken in a crate obtained from a colleague who does research with poultry at a midwestern university. Details are available on request, for anyone who wishes to replicate this experiment.

The Egg

I mailed the egg in standard packaging obtained through an industrial supplier. Details are available on request, for anyone who wishes to replicate this experiment.

Bon Voyage

I mailed both the chicken and the egg at 9:40 a.m., on a Monday morning, from the Harvard Square post office, in Cambridge. The staff there told me that this was the first chicken anyone had mailed from Harvard Square in recent memory, and perhaps ever. Nonetheless, the postal employees handled both the chicken and the egg deftly, with dispatch, and with courtesy.

The intended destination for both packages was the James A. Farley General Post Office, which is located in Manhattan right next to the Penn Station train terminal.

I took the subway from Harvard Square to the Boston train station, and from there boarded a train to New York City, a distance of approximately 200 miles, arriving that afternoon at Penn Station. I immediately went to the post office, to await the arrivals of the chicken and the egg.

Results

The James A. Farley General Post Office is open 24 hours a day, so I was able to wait there until both items arrived.

I inquired once per hour for both the chicken and the egg.

That day, Monday, neither the chicken nor the egg arrived.

The next day, Tuesday, neither the chicken nor the egg arrived.

The chicken arrived at 10:31 a.m. Wednesday. The staff at the post office told me that this was the first chicken anyone had mailed to the James A. Farley General Post Office in recent memory, and perhaps ever.

The egg arrived that same day, at 9:37 p.m., eleven hours after the chicken.

Conclusion

It has now been empirically determined that the chicken came first, the egg second.

However, seeing the history of previous questions that were taken up first by philosophers and only later by scientists, I am loath to predict that these results — clear as they are — will settle the question to everyone’s satisfaction.
Schtroumpf Grognon
2007-05-12 10:48:10 UTC
L'oeuf. Mais c'est pas une poule qui l'a pondu, c'est un autre animal. Ce qui est sorti de l'oeuf est une "variation" de l'animal qui l'a pondu, qu'on a appelée poule.
Marie
2007-05-12 10:47:42 UTC
d'abord un oeuf car pas de poule sans oeuf



mais en revanche, on peut imaginer un oeuf sans poule (oeuf de poulosaure rex par exemple)



évidemment ta question prendrait une autre tournure si tu demandais : qui est venu en premier : l'oeuf de poule ou la poule ?
Rémy C
2007-05-13 06:38:27 UTC
l'oeuf , mais pas l'oeuf de poule ...
louis l
2007-05-13 05:13:10 UTC
L'oeuf est venu avant la poule puisque le développement de la poule est postérieur à celui d'autre animaux ovipares. Entre autre, plusieurs, sinon tout, les dinosaures pondaient des oeufs.
Louis XV
2007-05-12 11:38:11 UTC
l´oeuf
Cochise
2007-05-12 10:54:03 UTC
Tout est confondu !
دجول **Djoul** ®
2007-05-12 10:44:21 UTC
le dinosaure. Faut mieux regarder Jurassic Park, c'est expliqué :)))))
edgartown
2007-05-12 10:43:37 UTC
Le coq , qui a vu la poule .......vous connaissez la suite !
☢Aski☢
2007-05-12 10:43:26 UTC
https://answersrip.com/question/index?qid=20070511132308AALlN65&show=7#profile-info-txghzAfoaa
2007-05-12 23:44:31 UTC
la poule
mausipa
2007-05-12 11:10:50 UTC
c'est l'oeuf qui vient des poissons et la poule n'est que l'évolution du poisson
2007-05-12 10:50:31 UTC
ta réussi à me faire sourire avec ta question et les réponses sont pas mal aussi
2007-05-12 10:42:54 UTC
ils sont arrivés ensemble et ils se sont dit que cela ferait un bon duo, et qu'on en parlerait encore des million d'années après... Belle réussite
pounch_mickey
2007-05-12 11:26:16 UTC
Salut,

on nait tous à partir d'un oeuf en fait.

Les poissons vivent dans l'eau, leurs oeufs n'ont donc pas besoin d'une coquille extra resistante.

Les amphibiens (ex les grenouilles), evolutuent a partir des poissons, mais ils repartent dans l'eau pour y pondre leurs oeufs (toujours pas de vrai coquille).

Les reptiles (la salamandre, ou les dinausaures), eux ont evolués, et se sont completement affranchis de l'eau, il pondent sur la terre ferme, leurs oeufs sont donc plus resistants et avec une coquille.

La poule, est un oiseau, et descendante directe des dinosaures, réptiles donc, qui pondaient deja des oeufs!



Donc l'oeuf qui tout a coup a ete pondu sur la terre, descend d'une espece qui etait entrain de s'affranchir du millieu aquatique.

Donc en gros, c'est pas l'oeuf qui est apparu en premier.
2007-05-12 10:47:02 UTC
That is the question...
2007-05-12 10:45:25 UTC
je dit la même chose que Xela
ddddddd d
2007-05-12 10:43:48 UTC
qui est venue en premier yahoo ou google
2007-05-12 10:42:48 UTC
le coq
2007-05-12 10:41:47 UTC
Qui est venu en premier, toi ou ton mère?
Xela
2007-05-12 10:41:13 UTC
Dieu créa la poule et la poule pondit des oeufs
just for fun
2007-05-12 10:40:43 UTC
Au début fut le verbe !
2007-05-12 10:40:35 UTC
Ni l'un ni l'autre!


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